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		<title>Comment on Are there too many smartphone operating systems? by Anup Ghosh</title>
		<link>http://navfund.com/blog/are-there-too-many-smartphone-operating-systems#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Anup Ghosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for laying out the landscape. My conclusion is similar to yours. I believe that there will be two platforms of market share significance: Apple IOS and Android. The question in my mind is how fast will Android over take Apple? Two factors work in Android&#039;s favor: (1) an open platform and (2) a Java-based app development environment.

An open platform for developers means your destiny isn&#039;t controlled by Apple. It also allows other players in the platform stack (such as security software players and system management solutions) to enter.  Proprietary interfaces can breed mistrust with the development community.

The Android Java-based application development environment is significant in my mind because it opens up a much larger community of developers, which is also one of your factors in the article. The learning curve for Apple&#039;s Objective C based development environment is steep compared to Java. Most programmers today are Java programmers, too. Ultimately the platform that gets the most content wins and a platform that is open to the largest number of developers is more likely to succeed because of lower barriers to entry. 

Finally divorcing the software platform from the hardware as Android has done gives consumers more options and the ability for the market to optimize on consumer interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for laying out the landscape. My conclusion is similar to yours. I believe that there will be two platforms of market share significance: Apple IOS and Android. The question in my mind is how fast will Android over take Apple? Two factors work in Android&#8217;s favor: (1) an open platform and (2) a Java-based app development environment.</p>
<p>An open platform for developers means your destiny isn&#8217;t controlled by Apple. It also allows other players in the platform stack (such as security software players and system management solutions) to enter.  Proprietary interfaces can breed mistrust with the development community.</p>
<p>The Android Java-based application development environment is significant in my mind because it opens up a much larger community of developers, which is also one of your factors in the article. The learning curve for Apple&#8217;s Objective C based development environment is steep compared to Java. Most programmers today are Java programmers, too. Ultimately the platform that gets the most content wins and a platform that is open to the largest number of developers is more likely to succeed because of lower barriers to entry. </p>
<p>Finally divorcing the software platform from the hardware as Android has done gives consumers more options and the ability for the market to optimize on consumer interests.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there too many smartphone operating systems? by Thanasis Delistathis</title>
		<link>http://navfund.com/blog/are-there-too-many-smartphone-operating-systems#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanasis Delistathis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, 
Good point on blackberry.  I imagine they are already thinking about streamlining this situation.  I don&#039;t know that wireless carriers will be completely cut out of the value chain.  Think about the Google phone.  I think it was a great phone, but without a subsidy that the carriers can only offer in exchange for subscription revenue, the phone just went nowhere.  The AT&amp;T subsidy is what keeps the iPhone extremely popular.   Good questions around whether one needs to own the OS to derive value from mobile space.  Time will tell. 

Ted,
you make a good point around early stage companies.  They are definitely more agile and can adapt faster to this diversity, which is an advantage against entrenched companies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,<br />
Good point on blackberry.  I imagine they are already thinking about streamlining this situation.  I don&#8217;t know that wireless carriers will be completely cut out of the value chain.  Think about the Google phone.  I think it was a great phone, but without a subsidy that the carriers can only offer in exchange for subscription revenue, the phone just went nowhere.  The AT&#038;T subsidy is what keeps the iPhone extremely popular.   Good questions around whether one needs to own the OS to derive value from mobile space.  Time will tell. </p>
<p>Ted,<br />
you make a good point around early stage companies.  They are definitely more agile and can adapt faster to this diversity, which is an advantage against entrenched companies!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there too many smartphone operating systems? by Ted Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post - I think handling fragmentation (porting, etc.) is a major market opportunity.  And for some startups, like the company that I run, being agile enough to handle fragmentation is a way an upstart can outcompete the big traditional media players who are slowly limping into mobile.  Startups with strong product management and scalable/portable architecture can rapidly respond to change and continued fragmentation.

As much as I complain about having to port, fragmentation is actually helping my business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post &#8211; I think handling fragmentation (porting, etc.) is a major market opportunity.  And for some startups, like the company that I run, being agile enough to handle fragmentation is a way an upstart can outcompete the big traditional media players who are slowly limping into mobile.  Startups with strong product management and scalable/portable architecture can rapidly respond to change and continued fragmentation.</p>
<p>As much as I complain about having to port, fragmentation is actually helping my business.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are there too many smartphone operating systems? by Sam Aparicio</title>
		<link>http://navfund.com/blog/are-there-too-many-smartphone-operating-systems#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Aparicio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. I agree with your main thesis.

In my opinion we are converging towards a bipolar market: Apple on iPhone OS and Everybody Else on Android. Cupertino will be able to successfully defend their positioning of &quot;best overall user experience&quot; by keeping a tightly knit integration between device and OS and by closely policing their App Store submissions. Everybody else will pool their R&amp;D dollars behind Google&#039;s open source OS, which will potentially dominate on the basis of having created the strongest ecosystem play. 

The other players (RIM doesn&#039;t have one OS, it has one OS per device per carrier... their development tools are infuriatingly bad, Symbian&#039;s developers are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/37686/Symbian-Guru-blogger-abandons-Symbian-for-Android&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jumping ship&lt;/a&gt;) will eventually cut their losses and follow HTC, Samsung, Motorola and join the Android alliance.

The question that begs to be asked, though, is: what would happen if there was a disruption such that mobile network operators were disintermediated from the go to market of devices, applications and services?

In a post-telecom world of ubiquitous wifi, femtocells, municipal fiber networks and &quot;network neutral&quot; pipes, which players in the OS space benefit the most? And is there room, then, for an OS-specific discontinuity?

An environment like that would probably settle the question of whether there is specific inner value in owning an OS for mobile devices or whether value can only be derived by an OS player that can get a slice of the subscriber pie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I agree with your main thesis.</p>
<p>In my opinion we are converging towards a bipolar market: Apple on iPhone OS and Everybody Else on Android. Cupertino will be able to successfully defend their positioning of &#8220;best overall user experience&#8221; by keeping a tightly knit integration between device and OS and by closely policing their App Store submissions. Everybody else will pool their R&amp;D dollars behind Google&#8217;s open source OS, which will potentially dominate on the basis of having created the strongest ecosystem play. </p>
<p>The other players (RIM doesn&#8217;t have one OS, it has one OS per device per carrier&#8230; their development tools are infuriatingly bad, Symbian&#8217;s developers are <a href="http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/37686/Symbian-Guru-blogger-abandons-Symbian-for-Android" rel="nofollow">jumping ship</a>) will eventually cut their losses and follow HTC, Samsung, Motorola and join the Android alliance.</p>
<p>The question that begs to be asked, though, is: what would happen if there was a disruption such that mobile network operators were disintermediated from the go to market of devices, applications and services?</p>
<p>In a post-telecom world of ubiquitous wifi, femtocells, municipal fiber networks and &#8220;network neutral&#8221; pipes, which players in the OS space benefit the most? And is there room, then, for an OS-specific discontinuity?</p>
<p>An environment like that would probably settle the question of whether there is specific inner value in owning an OS for mobile devices or whether value can only be derived by an OS player that can get a slice of the subscriber pie.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venture Capital Carried Interest Tax Debate – A VC’s Perspective by John Backus</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Backus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks John McNulty for the comment.  I agree in principle that the buyout guys also invest and hold for an extended period of time, and based on that assumption merit similar treatment.  IMHO, the PR problem facing the PE industry is the perception that success is a function of financial engineering, consolidation and layoffs.  I know that your statistics refute that premise.  But, that perception is out there nevertheless (while in the VC industry it is more of a pure growth story.)  The SEIU and a few others picketing Rubenstein and Carlyle don&#039;t help the story.  But perceptions aside, from a tax perspective, you are right.

I think the real solution is a very long-term capital gains tax rate - say 5 years - at 10% or less.  And let carried interest continue to follow the underlying capital gains rate on the assets managed......
john</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks John McNulty for the comment.  I agree in principle that the buyout guys also invest and hold for an extended period of time, and based on that assumption merit similar treatment.  IMHO, the PR problem facing the PE industry is the perception that success is a function of financial engineering, consolidation and layoffs.  I know that your statistics refute that premise.  But, that perception is out there nevertheless (while in the VC industry it is more of a pure growth story.)  The SEIU and a few others picketing Rubenstein and Carlyle don&#8217;t help the story.  But perceptions aside, from a tax perspective, you are right.</p>
<p>I think the real solution is a very long-term capital gains tax rate &#8211; say 5 years &#8211; at 10% or less.  And let carried interest continue to follow the underlying capital gains rate on the assets managed&#8230;&#8230;<br />
john</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venture Capital Carried Interest Tax Debate – A VC’s Perspective by John McNulty</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McNulty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooops....&quot;I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d make that bet&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooops&#8230;.&#8221;I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d make that bet&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Venture Capital Carried Interest Tax Debate – A VC’s Perspective by John McNulty</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McNulty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - Really nice article. A solid argument and well presented. I believe your article could also work if we replaced venture capital with private equity (buyouts). PE pros also work with management teams over 5 to 7 years to build companies and create jobs. Alas, VC seems to have a better public relations team than PE so you have better odds at maintaining carry as capital gains. Although, given the mood in DC these days, I&#039;m sure I&#039;d make that bet. But, I am rooting for you.

Best - John McNulty, Publisher , Private Equity Professional Digest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; Really nice article. A solid argument and well presented. I believe your article could also work if we replaced venture capital with private equity (buyouts). PE pros also work with management teams over 5 to 7 years to build companies and create jobs. Alas, VC seems to have a better public relations team than PE so you have better odds at maintaining carry as capital gains. Although, given the mood in DC these days, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d make that bet. But, I am rooting for you.</p>
<p>Best &#8211; John McNulty, Publisher , Private Equity Professional Digest</p>
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		<title>Comment on iPhone 4.0: This Must Be Important by John Backus</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Backus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>600,000 iphones were pre-ordered in 24 hours.  And that with a completely screwed up online ordering system.  That is really amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>600,000 iphones were pre-ordered in 24 hours.  And that with a completely screwed up online ordering system.  That is really amazing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Brand Advertisers: Not Stupid At All by Hale Boggs</title>
		<link>http://navfund.com/blog/brand-advertisers-not-stupid-at-all#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>Hale Boggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is spot on Scott, although I can&#039;t help but think that some brand will one day find the Holy Grail and figure out how to advertise effectively on the web.  Maybe it will take the true emergence of web TV (it&#039;s coming right???).  While it seems silly to think that the medium should be relevant to the message, it probably is.  And so those brands that have shelled out big bucks to the TV networks since the days of the soaps may actually be willing to take a flyer with web content, once it is delivered seamlessly to web-enabled 50 inch LCD screens...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is spot on Scott, although I can&#8217;t help but think that some brand will one day find the Holy Grail and figure out how to advertise effectively on the web.  Maybe it will take the true emergence of web TV (it&#8217;s coming right???).  While it seems silly to think that the medium should be relevant to the message, it probably is.  And so those brands that have shelled out big bucks to the TV networks since the days of the soaps may actually be willing to take a flyer with web content, once it is delivered seamlessly to web-enabled 50 inch LCD screens&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Facebook:  Every Website is now a Facebook App by John Backus</title>
		<link>http://navfund.com/blog/facebook-every-website-is-now-a-facebook-app#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>John Backus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 07:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Facebook:  Every website is now a Facebook App.  Read my latest post from the @navfund blog:  http://ow.ly/1ISMH&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Facebook:  Every website is now a Facebook App.  Read my latest post from the @navfund blog:  <a href="http://ow.ly/1ISMH" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/1ISMH</a></span></span></span></p>
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